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Re: chmod 700's level set!! (Last Update: 2019-06-20)

chmod 700 wrote:

   ...Also, dtb, I pose the same question: how many tries did it take you to all-coin 12?

On a gut level I'd say about 80-120 attempts.... funny thing is that I'm sure I could do better but the moment I ended up with exactly the same time twice I just left the building...

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Re: chmod 700's level set!! (Last Update: 2019-06-20)

Elviz wrote:

sudo chmod 777 -R neverball 12 (12_RunningAmok)
Most Coins, 0:55"57, 100 coins (all coins)

Well, ok, that's Elviz....  always  a few secs ahead  yikes

53 (edited by dtb 2019-07-03 07:19:56)

Re: chmod 700's level set!! (Last Update: 2019-06-20)

chmod 700 wrote:

I was just about to ask if anyone would care to go ahead and beat this time for me, 3:53.05 for the race level (III)...

I'd love to accept the challenge but it's only that I really can't stand race-levels.... though I have to say that your disappearing-floors-thing added an interesting new component to that genre...

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Re: chmod 700's level set!! (Last Update: 2019-06-20)

chmod 700 wrote:

How many tries did that take you, especially with what seems to be the mouse?

I didn't count them, but it wasn't a dramatic amount. (I do indeed use the mouse, except for very short best-time runs.)

Here's a new replay that's a bit faster.

sudo chmod 777 -R neverball 12 (12_RunningAmok)
Most Coins, 0:54"08, 100 coins (all coins)

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Re: chmod 700's level set!! (Last Update: 2019-06-20)

Here's my fastest all-coins replay for 15 (switched to manual cam after the red coins)

Cheers

dtb

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Re: chmod 700's level set!! (Last Update: 2019-06-20)

I wasn't sure if it was actually possible to get all coins in level 12. Nice to see the replays

Download my levels here: http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?id=3147
Progress: 74/100

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Re: chmod 700's level set!! (Last Update: 2019-06-20)

    I am very interested in seeing if level 20 can be completed in under 15 minutes. When you get around to it, send me a PM with your best times. I still cannot get under 17:06, though perhaps I just need to improve.

http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=34398  The Levels Are Here!!!

Name pronounced /tʃə.ˈmɑd/ ("chuh-mod") followed by the digits "seven zero zero".

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Re: chmod 700's level set!! (Last Update: 2019-06-20)

Continuing with the puzzle section now, won't post any replays of them...  but here is all-coins for 16 (yes,  I made two mistakes here) and my fast-unlock for Bonus I

Cheers

dtb

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59 (edited by chmod 700 2019-07-11 00:08:37)

Re: chmod 700's level set!! (Last Update: 2019-06-20)

    You can send me replays of them through PM, although really I am only interested in 20. (And, if it was not clear, V is not a puzzle and is thus not subject to the no-replay rule.)

    EDIT: Wait... you got all the coins on 16? yikes I doubt I could ever do something like that, which is why I set a lot of the records to something less than every single coin. (5:10 may also be a bit much time...)

http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=34398  The Levels Are Here!!!

Name pronounced /tʃə.ˈmɑd/ ("chuh-mod") followed by the digits "seven zero zero".

60 (edited by dtb 2019-07-11 07:02:58)

Re: chmod 700's level set!! (Last Update: 2019-06-20)

chmod 700 wrote:

... you got all the coins on 16? yikes I doubt I could ever do something like that...

Surprised to hear that ...the time limit in 16 is so well balanced (just enough time to grab 'em all) I was sure you set it based on experience wink

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Re: chmod 700's level set!! (Last Update: 2019-06-20)

dtb wrote:
chmod 700 wrote:

I was just about to ask if anyone would care to go ahead and beat this time for me, 3:53.05 for the race level (III)...

I'd love to accept the challenge but it's only that I really can't stand race-levels.... though I have to say that your disappearing-floors-thing added an interesting new component to that genre...

I've tried several times now but always clocking in around 4:12 (which is almost 20 secs slower than your record hmm
...wonder if it does make any difference which way you begin with ?

Cheers

dtb

P.S. At least I managed to get all coins in this level by now (50 is the maximum right?)

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Re: chmod 700's level set!! (Last Update: 2019-06-20)

    What is it about race levels that you "can't stand"? Is it just doing turns at high speeds, or is it doing the same thing over and over ad nauseum? Yes, 50 is the maximum, and there is no special secret that makes one direction faster than the other. But hey, I get the honor of dtb not being able to beat one of my times wink

http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=34398  The Levels Are Here!!!

Name pronounced /tʃə.ˈmɑd/ ("chuh-mod") followed by the digits "seven zero zero".

63 (edited by dtb 2019-07-13 08:18:47)

Re: chmod 700's level set!! (Last Update: 2019-06-20)

chmod 700 wrote:

    What is it about race levels that you "can't stand"? Is it just doing turns at high speeds, or is it doing the same thing over and over ad nauseum? Yes, 50 is the maximum, and there is no special secret that makes one direction faster than the other. But hey, I get the honor of dtb not being able to beat one of my times wink

To me most of the race levels quickly feel like just some repetitive task to complete, especially when they are longer (like reshaun's bonus IV "mariokart").  I also think that they are lacking the basic challenge I love about Neverball: to find out the best way how to get from start to finish (at least in the more complex levels) - in race levels it's instead quite obvious what you're expected to do right from the beginning. Probably it's also a keyboard player thing (once I tried to play a race level with the mouse and it felt much more like fun - at least to master the bends at higher speed which is not so easy using the keyboard). But that's all just a personal impression and as I mentioned before: your race level added some extra spice because there are two ways to go and the track changes (which is both new and makes it feel more adventurous to me than usual race levels) cool

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Re: chmod 700's level set!! (Last Update: 2019-06-20)

    Any reasons for quoting yourself?

http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=34398  The Levels Are Here!!!

Name pronounced /tʃə.ˈmɑd/ ("chuh-mod") followed by the digits "seven zero zero".

65 (edited by dtb 2019-07-13 08:19:55)

Re: chmod 700's level set!! (Last Update: 2019-06-20)

Oops... tried to shorten my lengthy explanation but just quoted the same answer instead   roll

Any mod around to delete post #64 ?

66 (edited by dtb 2019-07-14 19:28:02)

Re: chmod 700's level set!! (Last Update: 2019-06-20)

Thanks!

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Re: chmod 700's level set!! (Last Update: 2019-06-20)

Bonus IV: anybody hit the 600 mark? Me almost roll

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Re: chmod 700's level set!! (Last Update: 2019-06-20)

dtb wrote:

Bonus IV: anybody hit the 600 mark?

Here you go.

sudo chmod 777 -R neverball IV (Bonus4_SkillBall2)
Most Coins, 1:29"19, 600 coins (all coins)

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69 (edited by dtb 2019-07-16 20:31:50)

Re: chmod 700's level set!! (Last Update: 2019-06-20)

Omg you're still far ahead - brilliant time as well! yikes

Ok, next challenge: best time/all coins 1:14:09 for 18 tongue
(@ chmod 700 which is btw one of my favourite levels)

Cheers

dtb

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Re: chmod 700's level set!! (Last Update: 2019-06-20)

    dtb, did you ever get 600 or are you skipping bonus levels in your all-coin craze? Do you still have a replay for 1m14.09s? How do you get the 100's: directly, bouncing from farther up, or bouncing from below?

http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=34398  The Levels Are Here!!!

Name pronounced /tʃə.ˈmɑd/ ("chuh-mod") followed by the digits "seven zero zero".

71 (edited by dtb 2019-07-18 23:37:26)

Re: chmod 700's level set!! (Last Update: 2019-06-20)

chmod 700 wrote:

    dtb, did you ever get 600 or are you skipping bonus levels in your all-coin craze? Do you still have a replay for 1m14.09s? How do you get the 100's: directly, bouncing from farther up, or bouncing from below?

Skipped Bonus IV, 500 remains all I've got. I deleted the replay for 18 with 1m14.09s, new best time is 1m13.98s. Post replay here or pm? Not sure if I got your question right but I'd say 'directly' (...or 'bouncing from below'?)

Finally also got all coins in 19 ( 2m54.08s).

Really looking forward now getting to know the crown jewel of your set wink

Cheers

dtb

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Re: chmod 700's level set!! (Last Update: 2019-06-20)

  1. PM

  2. Directly = ball lands in 100 hole without touching anything else. Farther up = you bounce from, say, the far rim and then land in the hole. From below = you bounce from a spot before the 100, and then guide the ball in from there.

  3. As for 20, if you are looking for a coin challenge you may be disappointed. It could have been a 0-coin level, but I decided to add a little... thing...

http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=34398  The Levels Are Here!!!

Name pronounced /tʃə.ˈmɑd/ ("chuh-mod") followed by the digits "seven zero zero".

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Re: chmod 700's level set!! (Last Update: 2019-06-20)

Thought you were asking how I get the 100(coin)s in 18 - and was already wondering whether I overlooked some other way to obtain the blue coins....

As for IV: directly! (see replay)
Bouncing is no real option here because of the slant (of course I've also tried bouncing but the results were mostly unreproducible)

I'm not so mad about coins, I'm just always trying to get the maximum challenge out of a level. That doesn't necessarily depend on coins (for instance: finishing V in less than 2m)

I'll try to find out about that thing...

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Re: chmod 700's level set!! (Last Update: 2019-06-20)

dtb wrote:

... I'm just always trying to get the maximum challenge out of a level. That doesn't necessarily depend on coins (for instance: finishing V in less than 2m)...

Here we go, not as easy going as it seems wink

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Re: chmod 700's level set!! (Last Update: 2019-06-20)

dtb wrote:

[...] I'm just always trying to get the maximum challenge out of a level. That doesn't necessarily depend on coins (for instance: finishing V in less than 2m)

That does seem like a nice challenge.

Edit: Uploaded a new replay.

sudo chmod 777 -R neverball V (Bonus5_chmod777)
Best Time, 1:41"58

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