1 (edited by KodeBreaker 2018-10-24 19:22:50)

Topic: About Grown&Shrink (KödeBreaker Easy 13)

Grow & Shrink is probably my least favorite level in my set. It’s not very fun to me and I completed it in very short time. It feels very lazy to me.

I have a question, should I totally reforge the level? Or should I make some major changes on the layout of the level?
And what changes should I make on the level to make it better?

I’d love to hear your opinions on this level.

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Re: About Grown&Shrink (KödeBreaker Easy 13)

This lvl is so good. You completed this in very short time because you are author. You can select one of active users to test your levels before publishing.

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Re: About Grown&Shrink (KödeBreaker Easy 13)

    I would say perhaps change it so the 4 second solution is impossible. The real fun in that one is trying to get all the coins; getting to the goal in 20s without coins or 90s with coins is easy. I only just now got all coins in 6:32.62 (after writing that I had still not done it...) and I think that is where the real fun in the level lies. I might add one suggestion: remove two of the four 10's that are on the platforms connected by rails on the far outside... those are REALLY hard to get to.

http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=34398  I keep forgetting to work on 18.
The only other unfinished level, V, will come after I do all the others. I have a reason for this.

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4 (edited by KodeBreaker 2018-10-25 22:39:03)

Re: About Grown&Shrink (KödeBreaker Easy 13)

chmod 700 wrote:

I would say perhaps change it so the 4 second solution is impossible.

I want to keep that because it gives the player an extreme challenge; it's nearly impossible to do it anyway.

Also, do have any ideas for new obstacles to add to the level? The main reason I'm not happy with the level is because I copy and pasted everything to all four sides. I think it would be more fun if each side had one unique obstacle to keep the level fun. I'm really glad you like the level smile, now I know not to change too much things.

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Re: About Grown&Shrink (KödeBreaker Easy 13)

KodeBreaker wrote:

I want to keep that because it gives the player an extreme challenge; it's nearly impossible to do it anyway.

Also, do have any ideas for new obstacles to add to the level? The main reason I'm not happy with the level is because I copy and pasted everything to all four sides. I think it would be more fun if each side had one unique obstacle to keep the level fun. I'm really glad you like the level smile, now I know not to change too much things.

I'm trying to make the ,,imposible'' way.

You can make 4 switches in corners. They must switched on to unlock the goal.

Your levels are best, but i'm waiting on next update.

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Re: About Grown&Shrink (KödeBreaker Easy 13)

UPLOADING!!!

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Re: About Grown&Shrink (KödeBreaker Easy 13)

YEAH!!!
https://youtu.be/pCnEKoTeOUU

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Re: About Grown&Shrink (KödeBreaker Easy 13)

if this lvl is a short and difficult, i think that is valid type of lvl b/c for example RDF 15 (the one with a huge goal and a circular thwomp) is short and difficult (that is, if you try to get all coins). i cannot really think of any other examples at the moment, but nb medium bonus lvl I might qualify. i cannot say much abt this lvl right now, b/c so far i have only played KodeBreaker Easy tongue

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9 (edited by KodeBreaker 2018-10-26 19:55:44)

Re: About Grown&Shrink (KödeBreaker Easy 13)

lolek185 wrote:

You can make 4 switches in corners. They must switched on to unlock the goal.

Hey, that's a good idea! I'll see if it'll work on the layout. smile

It the it wrote:

i cannot say much abt this lvl right now, b/c so far i have only played KodeBreaker Easy

I'm assuming you didn't get far in my Easy set. I'm talking about level 13 in my Easy set. It's actually a pretty big level with LOTS of coins to collect.

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10 (edited by chmod 700 2018-10-26 22:22:25)

Re: About Grown&Shrink (KödeBreaker Easy 13)

@lolek: you already have the 10's there, and like I said,
@ittheit: I attached my 6:32.62 replay.
Possible changes:

  1. lolek's idea but you put the switches on the distant 10's and you only need to go to one of them.

  2. A secret jump that teleports you to a glass cube that has a path that sweeps all the coins + 1000. (Make it as hard to do that one as you currently have to do the 4 second time, then remove the 4 second time itself.)

  3. Make the tunnels of 1's that lead to the 10 platforms have obstacles on the 10 platforms so you have to be careful.

  4. Those coin pits with the elevators could be varied in the ball size required or the height of the elevator.

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kb-13_allcoins.nbr 6.29 mb, 18 downloads since 2018-10-26 

http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=34398  I keep forgetting to work on 18.
The only other unfinished level, V, will come after I do all the others. I have a reason for this.

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11 (edited by KodeBreaker 2018-10-27 02:47:11)

Re: About Grown&Shrink (KödeBreaker Easy 13)

3: Which tunnel of yellow coins do you mean? The tunnel where only the medium ball can fit, or the small pipe for the small ball? And what do you mean by having the 10 obstacles on the 10 platforms?

4: That's actually a really good idea! smile Why didn't I think of that! tongue

Thanks so much for the ideas! I really appreciate it! Grow & Shrink 2.0 will be amazing!

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12 (edited by adacrop 2018-10-27 13:24:25)

Re: About Grown&Shrink (KödeBreaker Easy 13)

Don't forget to align the brown marble floor at z=0, otherwise the mirrors won't work properly.

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Re: About Grown&Shrink (KödeBreaker Easy 13)

3. These (see replay):

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kb-13_example.nbr 318.1 kb, 22 downloads since 2018-10-27 

http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=34398  I keep forgetting to work on 18.
The only other unfinished level, V, will come after I do all the others. I have a reason for this.

Name pronounced "chuh-mod seven zero zero"

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Re: About Grown&Shrink (KödeBreaker Easy 13)

KodeBreaker wrote:

I'm assuming you didn't get far in my Easy set. I'm talking about level 13 in my Easy set. It's actually a pretty big level with LOTS of coins to collect.

actually i have beat every kodebreaker easy lvl except V so i have beaten this lvl. btw so far i have still only played your lvlset as it is when i downloaded it on 6/23/18. i donot think it is necessarily a bad thing if all 4 sides of the lvl are identical, because it means you can gather up speed and have the ball bounce to each next quadrant of the lvl. you could do this while focusing more on being quick and less on avoiding obstacles that differ on each quadrant, if that is what you want.

It the it's level set: http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?id=2922
6/19/17: a bit of help needed here, plz: http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?id=2988
avatar drawn with ANVIL-1000MD (c) and scaled down with GIMP
にほんご べんきょう する。 (i am studying japanese)

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Re: About Grown&Shrink (KödeBreaker Easy 13)

Grow & Shrink 2.0 is finished! I'm almost done polishing my Easy set! Then I'll start focusing on making more levels for m other sets! big_smile

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Re: About Grown&Shrink (KödeBreaker Easy 13)

KodeBreaker wrote:

Then I'll start focusing on making more levels for m other sets! big_smile

Can't wait to play them!!!

Is Kodebreaker Easy 10 dedicated to speedrunners (like me)?

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Re: About Grown&Shrink (KödeBreaker Easy 13)

Not really, I made the level for practice on moving platforms. The next three sets will be for players who like exploring and speedrunning.

The next three sets will introduce, time budgets with clocks, corner jumps, angled acceleration, puzzles, and balancing.

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Re: About Grown&Shrink (KödeBreaker Easy 13)

    Time budgets with clock items will not work in the default Neverball until clock items are added in a later version (which we are not sure if it will exist or not). But in limited circumstances you CAN make a time extension if you make your own timer and your level is of a certain type. See my attached level (which does not fit into my set and is thus uploaded as a standalone).

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levelidea.sol 43.88 kb, 22 downloads since 2018-10-30 

http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=34398  I keep forgetting to work on 18.
The only other unfinished level, V, will come after I do all the others. I have a reason for this.

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Re: About Grown&Shrink (KödeBreaker Easy 13)

KodeBreaker wrote:

The next three sets will introduce, time budgets with clocks, corner jumps, angled acceleration, puzzles, and balancing.

I don't like clocks sad

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Re: About Grown&Shrink (KödeBreaker Easy 13)

Thanks for the idea chmod! I'll definitely use it! smile

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