1 (edited by It the it 2018-02-03 17:26:43)

Topic: some winxp mspaint tips

This makes mspaint more usefull than it seems to the eye (at first)...

https://tpenguinltg.wordpress.com/2013/ … -could-do/

I find the tertiary color (I donot think I have seen GIMP with this! yikes ) and 1000% zoom useful.

Have Fun smile

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Re: some winxp mspaint tips

According to the Wikipedia page, the win98 version of MS Paint can make a certain color transparent if you have certain plugins. (When copying my old jetpack levels from an old computer, I also copied this version of Paint. It works in Windows 10 without requiring any setup.) I have done a bit of Internet searching for these plugins, without any luck (so far). If you know where to get these plugins, could you please post a link? Or if you have them, could you plz attach them if that would be permissible?

I know how easy it would be to make part of a mspaint image transparent with GIMP, or how much you might recommend I only use GIMP. (I actually know many of or all of the basics of using GIMP.) The thing is I am hoping having the transparency feature in Paint would add another level to "the art of being clever with Paint", which I want to practice. tongue smile

Off-topic: Someday I want to try to obtain all the versions of Paint and, with the help of the source code of OpenPaint, make a program with the aggregate of all of the features of all of the versions of Paint.

thx.It the it

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3 (edited by NeverHacker 2018-02-23 12:08:40)

Re: some winxp mspaint tips

mspaintphile... the platonic love of the people prevented its imminent death

¿what´s up? *Gus

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You seem to me a bit of a poet or something. Maybe you should practice writing some pieces?

Part of my inspiration to practice "the art of mspaint" comes from playing ht-never's notepad levels. (I am thinking of some ones you can now download from this thread.) When I played these levels some years ago, I thought they seemed a bit subpar, at least in a visual sense. These days when I play them, I sense resourcefulness in the creative and level-building processes and the fun that ht-never must have had when building them with notepad, the comparatively dismal counterpart of Radiant (in this case). (Not to mention I have also come to like the notepad visuals, such as the missing and misaligned targets and the missing trim textures at brush edges.) With this in mind, I was thinking that trying to make interesting (pixel or not) art with Paint would be a scintillating process involving the discoveries new drawing and time-saving techniques. tongue

BTW, here in this spoiler I place one such technique. I did it with the win98 version, though the same thing could be done with the winXP version. Both versions are (very) similar, but with the difference mentioned in the last post and at least one other.   If you look at the spoiler, you can see that the technique is merely a compensation for its simplicity compared with other programs like GIMP; in this case, layers. However, in this silly mindset of mine, I do not really care. Instead I see it as a place where the resourcefulness of "the art of MS Paint" comes in.  smile

Spoiler

(Plz see attached images)

1. Let's suppose you have this background image.

2. Let's suppose you have a white square with some blobs of pink background color. The goal is to fill the background color with the checks from step 1. To do this, set the pink as the bg color and uncheck "image > draw opaque". Push ctrl+A and then ctrl+X.

3. This is the result. Right click and click "paste from...". Choose the checks image. Then press ctrl+V.

4. The pink bgcolor has been replaced with checks.


(Yet another tip: It turns out that there are three ways (as far as I can tell) to paste a graphic in Paint: *Selecting something and shift+drag or ctrl+drag. *"Paste from..." from "Edit" or "rightclick". *Paste)

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Re: some winxp mspaint tips

It's gonna be so much fun when I get around to trying to make fine art and Neverball textures in mspaint  big_smile

@NeverHacker: I wonder what you think / will think of this smile

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I remember that I made a paint piece of a fictitious Neverball level... It was a nice experience

Come on, try it!

¿what´s up? *Gus

7 (edited by It the it 2018-04-15 06:03:55)

Re: some winxp mspaint tips

As I said I really do want to get around to doing what I said I wanted to do, but I am so often busy with other things these days

smile tongue :0 smile tongue :0

EDIT: ps some years ago I thought what if you tried painting Neverball things with water color (in the space of reality)

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Re: some winxp mspaint tips

NeverHacker wrote:

I remember that I made a paint piece of a fictitious Neverball level... It was a nice experience

Good idea! ...   I might also try this, but if I do, I dunno when . . .
tongue

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Before I try making fine art etc. with paint, I would like to know a way, if there is one, to reset to default the selection of colors on the bottom of the window that you click to change the foreground/background/tertiary color you draw with (I think it is called the color box), in paint 98/xp. I know that, by default, the color box has colors that come from the basic colors in the color menu. But I really like the default selection of colors in the color box, and sometime(s) I will want to try drawing with only this color selection.

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9 (edited by It the it 2019-10-08 05:41:39)

Re: some winxp mspaint tips

some time after i wrote the previous post in this thread, i found that in the winxp version of mspaint and/or in the win98 version of mspaint, the color palette resets to default when you close and open the program tongue .

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hey guys / みんな こら ( minna kora )( hey everyone )

i made something. it is an animated .gif image that demonstrates a method i thought of of quickly making a grid with mspaint. also, this method is not as prone to making mistakes as a method in which you copy the cells individually might be.

btw, in this series of images, i used the tertiary color feature that is mentioned in the link in the first post of this thread. also, i used the mouse keys feature that comes with windows. in mspaint, one thing that mouse keys helps with is moving things pixel by pixel. another thing is moving the cursor pixel by pixel so that you can achieve a certain cursor position that is indicated in the status bar of mspaint. here is a page about mouse keys: https://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000542.htm .

--> this .gif image has 25 frames. some of the frames show for 2 seconds, and some show for 3 seconds, meaning that the gif image takes about a minute to go from the first frame to the last frame.

--> i was using the win98 version of mspaint when i took the screenshots for this .gif image. you could also use this technique for the winxp version of mspaint because, as far as i can tell, the win98 version and the winxp version are largely the same.
mspaint grid technique

also, while making this .gif image, at a certain point i realized i had done something unintended and partially started over. the image below is the result of me unintended action. if you copy it and rotate it 90deg, you can get a different grid. as a lil exercise, you can try to remake this mistake. also, you can become adventurous and try to discover new grids and new methods of making grids that i have not tried to discover.
mspaint grid technique bonasu pikku


ps i think mspaint is an exciting program smile . i liked making with mspaint the nb textures that i attached in this thread.

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Re: some winxp mspaint tips

some time ago, an Internet friend i have attached in an email she (yes, i know her gender smile) sent me a .pdf file that demonstrates a drawing exercise or technique with mspaint. she is the only person i know who is as excited about mspaint as i am. she says it used to be accessible on a website called "The Math Forum" or "Math Forum" that i think might be http://mathforum.org/dr.math/ . i think you have to use wayback machine to find this .pdf file these days.

well, here in this post is attached this .pdf file from this math website. the mspaint component is pretty good.

wink

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