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<![CDATA[Neverforum — Nevermania]]> http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/index.php Mon, 26 Apr 2021 08:03:28 +0000 PunBB <![CDATA[Re: New Version of Inferno]]> http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=35820#p35820 Elviz wrote:

You people keep finding loopholes in this level. yikes

Then again, that's actually good because then I know that there are things I still need to fix.

Calling it a loophole.... you mean THIS (as in reshaun's replay) is NOT the intended way?  If not, let the cat out of the infernal bag - at least a small part of it  lol

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Mon, 26 Apr 2021 08:03:28 +0000 http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=35820#p35820
<![CDATA[Re: New Version of Inferno]]> http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=35818#p35818 gypaete wrote:

Thank you Kodebreaker and Reshaun for the strat !

I was trying that technique a while back! I had a feeling that it had to be that way to beat the level! yikes

Great Job! big_smile

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Fri, 23 Apr 2021 00:56:34 +0000 http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=35818#p35818
<![CDATA[Re: New Version of Inferno]]> http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=35815#p35815 Thank you Kodebreaker and Reshaun for the strat !

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Wed, 21 Apr 2021 18:36:23 +0000 http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=35815#p35815
<![CDATA[Re: New Version of Inferno]]> http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=35688#p35688 reshaun wrote:

I just jump and bump over the obstacles and solved it.

Awesome replay!

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Fri, 27 Nov 2020 19:59:14 +0000 http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=35688#p35688
<![CDATA[Re: New Version of Inferno]]> http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=35687#p35687 You people keep finding loopholes in this level. yikes

Then again, that's actually good because then I know that there are things I still need to fix.

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Fri, 27 Nov 2020 02:59:13 +0000 http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=35687#p35687
<![CDATA[Re: New Version of Inferno]]> http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=35686#p35686 I just jump and bump over the obstacles and solved it.

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Thu, 26 Nov 2020 18:12:51 +0000 http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=35686#p35686
<![CDATA[Re: New Version of Inferno]]> http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=35684#p35684 I've been playing the new version of the level a little bit and I think I found something. I feel like I'm getting closer.

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Tue, 24 Nov 2020 23:35:55 +0000 http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=35684#p35684
<![CDATA[Re: How am I supposed to do Adventure?]]> http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=35033#p35033 chmod 700 wrote:

Would you mind revealing the total number of coins in the level? (It looks like around 400.)

Yes, it's exactly 400.

dtb wrote:

In the good old days of the Nevertable it was easy to evaluate the amount of most coins for literally every official level just by checking out the respective record for it.

For Nevermania levels, it's even easier. The Hard preset in the Most Coins high-score table always corresponds to the total amount of coins in that level. I think this also holds true for Neverball Easy, Neverball Medium, Neverball Hard and Tones Levels.

Another way of finding out is to compile the level in question with mapc and look at the output (which includes this information in the first line).

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Wed, 11 Sep 2019 04:13:20 +0000 http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=35033#p35033
<![CDATA[Re: How am I supposed to do Adventure?]]> http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=35029#p35029 chmod 700 wrote:

    OK, I found the other grow item. The third and fourth options are unrealistic: the shrink item on the two pipes requires a large ball or else you fall off, but I also need to have a small ball in order to press that one switch. (This reminds me of Hard V, although in that level I know the solution for getting all coins, but I have yet to pull it off.)
    Would you mind revealing the total number of coins in the level? (It looks like around 400.)

In the good old days of the Nevertable it was easy to evaluate the amount of most coins for literally every official level just by checking out the respective record for it. You could also download the corresponding replay(s). Sure it was a major spoiler but also a unique source of never-ending inspiration offering various possibilities how to solve a level in the best time or/and with the most coins. Elviz dominated the Nevertable overall but never contributed records for his own Nevermania levels as far as I remember (that's the only reason I could also enter this "Hall of Fame" at a time with a record for "ramps"). Nowadays all we've got are protonspring's cheesy replays on YT*... it's a shame.

I think 400 is a good guess.

Cheers

dtb

* which I highly recommend you shouldn't watch if you really enjoy finding out about the secrets and solutions on your own and also prefer playing this game at the speed it was meant to be

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Tue, 10 Sep 2019 08:33:05 +0000 http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=35029#p35029
<![CDATA[Re: How am I supposed to do Adventure?]]> http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=35028#p35028     OK, I found the other grow item. The third and fourth options are unrealistic: the shrink item on the two pipes requires a large ball or else you fall off, but I also need to have a small ball in order to press that one switch. (This reminds me of Hard V, although in that level I know the solution for getting all coins, but I have yet to pull it off.)
    Would you mind revealing the total number of coins in the level? (It looks like around 400.)

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Tue, 10 Sep 2019 02:30:09 +0000 http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=35028#p35028
<![CDATA[Re: How am I supposed to do Adventure?]]> http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=35025#p35025 chmod 700 wrote:

I can see a way to get one of the switches unlocked, but of course that makes the ball smaller, and there seems to be a very limited supply of grow/shrink coins so the main trick does not work.

There are two shrink items and two grow items in the level, so your options in terms of ball size progression are:

  • Normal → Small → Normal → Big → Normal

  • Normal → Big → Normal → Small → Normal

  • Normal → Small → Normal → Small → Normal

  • Normal → Big → Normal → Big → Normal

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Mon, 09 Sep 2019 02:39:42 +0000 http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=35025#p35025
<![CDATA[How am I supposed to do Adventure?]]> http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=35024#p35024     If you will forgive me for editing the save file to "complete" all the levels (I did that before I realized how to mark the levels as "incomplete but unlocked")... I have been trying to do Nevermania 16, Adventure, and I usually end up trying something as seen in the "start" replay. I can reach the goal, but not with 250 coins.
    I can see a way to get one of the switches unlocked, but of course that makes the ball smaller, and there seems to be a very limited supply of grow/shrink coins so the main trick does not work. See "idea" replay.
    Smaller hints are preferred over detailed solutions.

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Mon, 09 Sep 2019 00:08:03 +0000 http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=35024#p35024
<![CDATA[Re: New Version of Inferno]]> http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=34584#p34584 KodeBreaker wrote:

I've seen that you edited another level of yours and added 2 new textures on GitHub. Are there new Nevermania levels coming soon?

Currently, I'm just revisiting existing levels. After a five-year break, there are some improvements that I think should be made. The two textures are needed by the upcoming new version of Rails, although it seems that mtrl/orange has already been in use by add-on level sets for a while.

Perhaps there'll be a new level eventually, but it may take some time, and I haven't really started yet.

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Tue, 26 Mar 2019 21:27:12 +0000 http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=34584#p34584
<![CDATA[Re: New Version of Inferno]]> http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=34582#p34582 I've seen that you edited another level of yours and added 2 new textures on GitHub. Are there new Nevermania levels coming soon?

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Tue, 26 Mar 2019 13:36:08 +0000 http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=34582#p34582
<![CDATA[Re: New Version of Inferno]]> http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=34577#p34577 KodeBreaker wrote:

[...] here are the two hints we have so far:

Don't read too much into those quotes.

The part about how the player is not supposed to defeat the thwomps had the caveat "Not this way, at least." And the remark about dtb's replay was just a bit of fun. Causing a fall-out, no matter where, is obviously not the trick.

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Mon, 25 Mar 2019 22:06:46 +0000 http://neverforum.com/fmpbo/viewtopic.php?pid=34577#p34577